Monthly Archives: July 2004

Were the Torture Memos Just Normal Lawyering?

Adrian Vermeule and Eric Posner, both respected law scholars at U. Chicago, penned an op-ed last week [now suddenly offline, only available via google cache] in which they argued that the torture memos were in fact quality lawyering, a view endorsed by the pseudonymous member of the Volokh conspiracy (who often writes as if s/he were a government lawyer).

There are a lot of things I find disturbing about this view. First, if the Torture Memo author(s) (mostly John Yoo) were asked to survey the field and opine on the best answer, they clearly failed. They did not even let on there was another side to the Presidential power question, much less that the majority of the Supreme Court had endorsed it, and most likely would again endorse it.

The Chicago profs counter this argument by saying that the OLC engaged in “standard lawyerly fare, routine stuff”. And,

Although it is true that they did not, in their memorandum, tell their political superiors that torture was immoral or foolish or politically unwise, they were not asked for moral or political advice; they were asked about the legal limits on interrogation. They provided reasonable legal advice and no more, trusting that their political superiors would make the right call. Legal ethics classes will debate for years to come whether Justice's lawyers had a moral duty to provide moral advice (which would surely have been ignored) or to resign in protest.

Wrong. This isn't a close call at all. To the extent that they lawyers may have been told they had to justify as much torture as could be squared with the law, they again failed on two grounds. First, their arguments as to specific intent, at least, were (I have it on good authority) specious. Second, if tasked with justifiying a given and evil conclusion, they should have found somewhere to mention that torture would be wrong. The failure to do so, as Jack Balkin noted some time ago, makes the entire argument one of those documents that makes you ashamed to be a lawyer.

Indeed, Balkin again has useful things to say about this op-ed, focusing on the claim that in the Torture Memo the OLC was just doing what it usually does, asserting a strong view of Presidential power.

Both Posner and Vermeule (and yes for that matter John Yoo also) have written scholarly papers that I respect. But there's something worryingly wrong here when smart lawyers endorse the view that a lawyer is a machine, and can or should turn off his moral compasses, justifying it by saying he is just following the client's orders, or meeting his expectations, or that saying “this would be wrong” is a futile gesture. This is never more true when they are government lawyers with an independent oath and obligation to the American people and to the Constitution.

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Land of the Free (Except Near Bush)

Via my brother's White House Briefing comes a dead-pan rendition of this very very disturbing story:

John Myers writes in the local paper, the Duluth News Tribune: “The president entered the DECC Arena just before 6 p.m., nearly 10 minutes ahead of schedule, to darkened lights, blaring music and a giant W-shaped spotlight that moved across the crowd.

“As the president entered the Arena, screams erupted among his raucous supporters who had waited in line for tickets, waited in line to clear security, then waited still longer for the president's arrival.”

Chris Hamilton of the Duluth paper adds: “It was a tightly controlled event staffed by dozens of volunteers with laminated badges. The Secret Service set up metal detectors and had mug shots of local anti-Bush activists Joel Kilgour and Joel Sipress.”

But it's Michael Larson they should have been watching for.

As Myers reports: “Bush's speech was interrupted for a few seconds when a protester, Michael Larson of Duluth, stood up in an aisle and yelled, 'Shame on you.' Bush stopped speaking only briefly and didn't acknowledge Larson, who was wearing a white T-shirt with fake blood painted on it. Larson was immediately ushered out by police and Secret Service. He was ticketed and released by police.”

Wait a minute.

The Secret Service blocks dissidents from attending a public meeting based on the content of their speech?!? That's vile.

Heckling gets you forcibly ejected by cops? And ticketed? (This only rates one “?” as I can imagine how this might be 'creating a public nuisance' or something, but given that it's unlikley that an enraptured pro-Bush interruption would cause an arrest, I still think there's an issue here.)

What's taking so long for that ACLU lawsuit about so-called free speech zones anyway? The complaint in ACORN v. Philadelphia was filed last September. Is nothing going to happen before the election?

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More Allegations of Torture at Gitmo

I missed this one when it came out last week (alterted via Ken Sain):

Swede reignites Guantanamo Bay torture fears. In his first interviews to the Swedish media, Mehdi Ghezali said US interrogators subjected him to a string of abuses, including being shackled for hours, sleep deprivation, no contact with the outside world, being forced to endure cold temperatures for up to 14 hours at a time and attempts to humiliate him sexually.

“There was always psychological torture, but the last month they used more physical torture,” Mr Ghezali told Swedish Radio.

His claims are in line with accounts from other Guantanamo detainees who have been released.

Swedish Radio's correspondent described Mr Ghezali as withdrawn, solemn and tired.

A devout Muslim, Mr Ghezali insisted he was not involved in terrorist activities.

“I don't think they would have released me if I were,” he told the radio.

He said he was arrested in December 2001 in Pakistan and turned over to US authorities who shipped him to Guantanamo in January 2002.

He claimed he was visiting a friend in Pakistan when local villagers captured him and sold him to Pakistani police, who then handed him over to the US.

Mr Ghezali said he was interrogated daily by US guards, but stopped answering their questions after the first six months. He said he remained silent for the next two years.

One time, the guards brought an American woman into his cell to try to get him to have sex with her.

“They tried to make me lose my faith. Maybe they wanted to use it against me so I would cooperate,” he said.

The only physical traces Mr Ghezali has from his detention are teeth in poor condition and the loss of feeling in part of his left foot after an ankle chain was clamped too tight.

There is indeed a striking consistency to the stories released detainees are telling. I suppose someone will suggest some sort of common plan or purpose on their part, but given the extent to which the detainees are kept isolated while being held that seems very unlikely.

An almost amusing footnote to this story is the Swedish public's annoyed reaction to the $67,425 cost of flying Mehdi-Muhammed Ghezali home.

Apparently, the US required a special flight direct from Gitmo, rather than taking him to, say, Miami and letting him board a commercial flight. (I imagine one reason for this is to prevent any detainee from setting foot in the US, with all the jurisdictional consequences that implies.)

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Red Cross Wants Information on Missing Detainees

I've been going on and on about whether the US is holding people in secret interrogation camps abroad. Now AP reports that the Red Cross Fears U.S. Is Hiding Detainees and has been expressing this concern to the US for some time without getting a satisfactory reply:

But Notari told The Associated Press that some suspects reported as arrested by the FBI on its Web site, or identified in media reports, are unaccounted for.

“Some of these people who have been reported to be arrested never showed up in any of the places of detention run by the U.S. where we visit,” Notari said.

She said she had read media reports that some people are being held at Diego Garcia, a British-held island in the Indian Ocean used as a strategic military base by the United States, but the ICRC has not been notified of any prisoners there.

“We just simply have absolutely no confirmation of this in any formal way,” she said.

The U.S. government has not officially responded to a Red Cross demand for notification of all detainees, including those held in undisclosed locations, she said.

That request was made by ICRC President Jakob Kellenberger in January during a visit to Washington that featured meetings with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

“So far we haven't had a satisfactory reply,” Notari said.

This is a serious issue.

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Eric Muller on the Difference Between Books and Precedents

Eric Muller, back from what looks like a great vacation, has some interesting things to say about how the Guantanamo, Hamdi, and Padilla cases amount to a repudiation of the basic thesis of Chief Justice Rehnquist's book on civil liberties in wartime, All the Laws But One.

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New Law & Tech Journal Announcement and Call For Papers

My friends Peter Shane and Peter Swire are launching an interesting new law & tech journal to be called I/S: A Journal of Law and Policy for the Information Society. I/S will be published in cooperation between by Ohio State's Moritz's Center for Law, Policy and Social Science and the Heinz School's Institute for the Study of Information Technology and Society (InSITeS). (I've agreed to be on the editorial board, which means I'll occasionally review submissions.)

I've attached the official announcement.

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