It's stuff like this that gets me mad at the Obama administration:
According to the NYT in Gates Cites Peril in Leak of Afghan War Logs by WikiLeaks, US immigration officials (along with the Army’s criminal investigation division) stopped US citizen Jacob Appelbaum to question him about his involvement (which he denies) in the Wikileaks somewhat Pentagon-papers-like release of US classified documents detailing how the war in Afghanistan is going less well than advertised.
So far, well that's routine. If the cops want to interview a suspect or even a possible witness to a crime and find him at the border, as I understand it (I'm not an expert here, I'm repeating what I've been told and invite corrections) they can detain him for questioning. And why not? If law enforcement have adequate grounds to arrest or detain someone inside the US, why should they have to play catch and release with criminal suspects (or even witnesses) at the border? Similarly, if the Army is involved in the investigation of a leak of their documents, I can't see a principled reason why they can't participate in an arrest or interrogation. But that's not what's at issue here:
Mr. Appelbaum said the agents at Newark Airport refused him access to a lawyer and threatened to detain him for similar questioning whenever he re-entered the country after traveling abroad, which he said he did twice a month for a day job as an online software developer.
“They questioned my ability to re-enter the U.S. even though I'm a U.S. citizen,” he said in a telephone interview from Las Vegas. “It's very troubling to think that every time I cross the border, I'd get this treatment.”
Two problems here: First, not giving a US citizen access to a lawyer when he's being questioned about a crime he's apparently suspected of knowing about or participating in. Second, threatening to misuse the US's border control powers to harass a citizen's lawful movements across the border not because he's suspected of carrying any contraband, but because he exercises his Fifth Amendment right.
Immigration law is quicksand for civil rights, so it's conceivable to me (recall that I'm not an immigration lawyer) that the no-lawyer rule is supported by some law or precedent, although I still think it's not in keeping with our traditions or aspirations for the rule of law. (Mr. Appelbaum had the fortitude to refuse to talk without a lawyer for the three hours he was detained.) But the idea that it might be proper to threaten to harass someone routinely at the border, much less carry out such a threat, strikes me as not only clearly illegal but very ugly. I think this threat from US immigration or customs officials would be illegal in any context when directed at a US citizen, but the case is even more clear when in response to a valid assertion of a Fifth Amendment right not to speak when interrogated.
I doubt Mr. Appelbaum wants to sue about this, but it seems to me that the particularity of the threat against him would give him standing to seek declaratory and perhaps injunction relief despite the bar on general suits of this nature set up in Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U.S. 95 (1983).
Views from those knowledgeable about such things welcomed.
The problem here, as I understand it, is that a person entering the country (citizen or not, makes no difference) appears to be in some kind of limbo state where they are technically not yet admitted to the U.S. and the usual legal protections do not apply. Any usual concepts of civil rights may simply not be meaningful here.
Of course, that situation is just an open invitation for abuses like this one.
The only counterweight that would tend to limit these abuses by border agents is the simple fact that commerce with the rest of the world necessitates crossing borders, and abuse would interfere with commerce. This country has simply reached the point where paranoia and fear of manufactured fantasy external threats are more important than allowing people to conduct business.
Mr. Doughney is correct. Anyone entering the U.S., including US citizens, have curtailed civil rights, especially in regard to 4th Amendment rights.
If the INS/ICE/Homeland Security want to take your laptop and look through every file on it, they can. If you’ve encrypted contents that they can’t open and you refuse to give them the password, you may be denied entry, or worse.
Not that any of this is right.
Professor,
At a border crossing, “securing the border” trumps the 4th Amendment.
United States v. Flores-Montano
Federal immigration authority exits within 100 miles of the border. Therefore, the whole of Florida’s territory is within border patrol jurisdiction.
Witness some activities at the “Border”:
Border activity YouTubes
Info on interior border patrol activity in the northeast.
..and in the southwest.
I feel that this sitution will continue to get out of control .I w as told that am in ‘pugotory’ and not on USA soil So now i dont go to Canada and spend my money here in Michigan.