Category Archives: 9/11 & Aftermath

So Much for the Third Degree

That Al-Queda #3 man captured the other day? He's enjoying the gentle ministrations of the Pakistani intelligence services. But the interrogation, allegedly, isn't going that well:

Intelligence officials who have been questioning Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the senior al-Qa'eda suspect arrested last week, have cast doubt over claims by the Pakistani prime minister, Shaukat Aziz, that the interrogation is “proceeding well”.

The officials say that al-Libbi, who is believed to be al-Qaeda's number three, has defied efforts to make him reveal valuable intelligence about its senior hierarchy, despite coming under “physical pressure” to do so.

More than a dozen low-key al-Qa'eda targets were arrested in Pakistan last week thanks to information stored on al-Libbi's satellite telephone. Yet early hopes among both American and Pakistani intelligence officials that he would tell them the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawihiri, were dashed.

One senior intelligence official told The Telegraph: “So far he has not told us anything solid that could lead to the high-value targets. It is too early to judge whether he is a hard nut to crack, or simply that he doesn't know more than he has told us.”

Al-Libbi had been beaten and injected with the so-called “truth drug”, sodium pentothal, said the official. “They have tried all possible methods, from the 'third degree' to injecting him with a truth serum but it is hard to break him,” he said.

I have to say “allegedly” because this is the sort of disinformation you'd expect an on-the-ball intelligence agency to spread if the guy had in fact spilled his guts.

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Three is the Loneliest Number

A followup to Three is a Convenient Number to State, in which I noted how the US was trumpeting the capture of yet another third-in-command Al-Qaeda leader — the British and world press are reporting that Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’:

THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.

As yet there is no sign of this story in the US media, at least not in the sources covered by news.google.com.

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Three is a Convenient Number to State

First Draft – Got Any Threes? notices that we sure seem to be catching a lot of third-ranking al Qaeda leaders.

Of course, there could be all sorts of explanations for this: ties, replacements, fudging….

(Apologies to those offended by Snarks).

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‘FBI Helped Saudis Escape’ Not Such Tin Foil After All

Remember that tin-foil tale about the US helping high-ranking Saudis — including members of the bin Laden family — leave the US without interviewing them? It seems the conspiracy theory had one fact wrong — the flights in question didn't actually take off before the air travel ban was lifted, but only soon after, in a period when flights were still limited. Otherwise, the tin foil view is looking pretty good.

New Details on F.B.I. Aid for Saudis After 9/11: The F.B.I. gave personal airport escorts to two prominent Saudi families who fled the United States, and several other Saudis were allowed to leave the country without first being interviewed, the documents show.

The Saudi families, in Los Angeles and Orlando, requested the F.B.I. escorts because they said they were concerned for their safety in the wake of the attacks, and the F.B.I. – which was then beginning the biggest criminal investigation in its history – arranged to have agents escort them to their local airports, the documents show.

But F.B.I. officials reacted angrily, both internally and publicly, to the suggestion that any Saudis had received preferential treatment in leaving the country.

“I say baloney to any inference we red-carpeted any of this entourage,” an F.B.I. official said in a 2003 internal note. Another F.B.I. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said this week regarding the airport escorts that “we'd do that for anybody if they felt they were threatened – we wouldn't characterize that as special treatment.”

Yes, you see, we give Saudis special treatment like this all the time, so it's not really special, is it?

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Annals of Death and Destruction

How to destroy the earth — harder than you might think.

How to cause massive death and destruction in the US (zip file) — easier than it should be. (News article, infographic summary.)

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YATA (Domestic)

Bilmon reads the NY Daily news:

Whiskey Bar: The Out of Towners Defense attorneys call it Brooklyn's Abu Ghraib. On the ninth floor of the federal Metropolitan Detention Center in Sunset Park, terrorism suspects swept off the streets after the Sept. 11 attacks were repeatedly stripped naked and frequently were physically abused, the Justice Department's inspector general has found.

The detainees – none of whom were ultimately charged with anything related to terrorism – alleged in sworn affidavits and in interviews with Justice Department officials that correction officers … shackled their hands and feet before smashing them repeatedly face-first into concrete walls — within sight of the Statue of Liberty …

I've heard stories like this which pre-date 9/11, but one has the strong anecdotal feeling that 9/11 and/or the Patriot Act has created a psychological climate among law enforcement which makes things much worse than previously.

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