Category Archives: Law School

Best Headline of the Day

WSJ Law Blog, Law-School Dropout Wins Nobel Peace Prize.

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I Knew That

Does Law School Curriculum Affect Bar Examination Passage? asks the question, and says the answer is “no”. That is certainly what our study here, several years ago, showed.

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WSJ Story on Impoverished Law Graduates

The whole legal blog world is linking to the Wall St. Journal article Hard Case: Job Market Wanes for U.S. Lawyers and this WSJ blog discussion of it, WSJ.com : The Dark Side of the Legal Job Market, so why buck the trend.

For what little it's worth, the anecdotal evidence I have from former students is that while things can be pretty rough, they're not as bad as this article makes out unless you either did very poorly in law school, or (this is my interpretation) interview very badly.

There's no question that a law degree from U.M., or indeed any but a tiny number of law schools, does not guarantee you a job, much less a very high-paid job: as I noted previously (Starting Salaries For Law Students are BiModal — If Not Bipolar), the evidence is that the legal market has become segmented into two parts, with the lower tier getting starting — starting — salaries in the $40-$55 thousand range. A good wage…but not so great if you are carrying a huge load of debt.

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Some Thoughts on Law School Selection, With Particular Reference to Miami

A commentator in the “We'll Try Harder” thread, in which I noted with some pleasure that a magazine says UM is great for Hispanic students, throws down the gauntlet,

What are the top 10 Best Law Schools for Jews, michael? Asians? Whites? Show this troll that the legal community really does care about segregating minorities into “incubators” where they can really flourish. Surely you have some thoughts on which Law schools are best for particular minorities…please share!

Well, since you asked.

I don't think there's a simple answer to the question of what law school is best for everyone (unless it's “Yale”). Tastes and needs vary.

Urban/rural is a really important choice — where are you more comfortable? Do you need to be away from distractions?

Weather matters a lot to some people, especially those subject to Seasonal affective disorder. Geography also matters in the sense that all other things being equal, there's multiple advantages to going to a law school near where you'd like to work. (Learn the local folkways, meet local employers in social and legal events, easy to get to interviews especially with smaller firms that may not have a travel budget.)

Big/small — you can get lost in a big place unless you are a self-starter while small schools tend to do a better job of hand-holding, but big schools usually have a larger faculty and thus a richer curriculum.

Some schools — fewer than you'd guess from their ads — have specializations that may matter to your JD education.

And for some people the makeup of the student body and/or the sensitivity of the law school and/or surrounding community may matter. In that sense, Miami really does have a serious and relatively rare feature that may matter enormously to some potential students: this is a city that speaks Spanish as much as English — and more than English in some neighborhoods. (The effect is much less pronounced on campus, as we're fairly Anglo, but a lot of the staff and some of the students will speak Spanish to each other.) That may attract some people, and may put off others, but it is a real fact of life in this city. I would imagine that some bilingual students would find this very comfortable and even comforting; I would imagine that some Anglos unused to linguistic diversity might find it challenging. (Others, like me, find it charming and cosmopolitan.) But it is a real and relevant fact here and in that sense if no other makes this a welcoming place for Hispanic students. (There are, of course, other things too, such as our habit of teaching a few courses relating to civil law in Spanish, but that's another story.)

As for Jews, I'm no authority on the subject, but I think there's a spirit at Cardozo that you don't find many places. When I went there for an interview I felt at home right away in a way that I rarely encounter. It wasn't unique, but it was noticeable. I wasn't able to accept their job offer for geographic reasons, but I really liked the place. And it is nice to have a school that recognizes Jewish holidays. (UM does a tolerable job of accommodation, but it's not always built into the official calendar.) My kids' resolutely secular private school closes for major Jewish holidays, just as it does for major Christian ones, and I appreciate that.

As for whites, I would say the best schools are the ones that are not too dominated by whites. It's a diverse and complex world out there, boys and girls, and you better get used to it.

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We’ll Try Harder

Top 20 Law Schools for Hispanics (with the percentages of Hispanic students and faculty for the Top 10 schools):

  1. New Mexico (27%; 22%)
  2. Miami (12%; 8%)
  3. Texas (17%; 4%)
  4. USC (16%; 6%)
  5. American (14%; 6%)
  6. Florida State (8%; 7%)
  7. Arizona State (15%; 7%)
  8. Stanford (11%; 7%)
  9. Arizona (12%; 8%)
  10. Florida International (28%; 17%)
  11. UCLA
  12. BYU
  13. George Washington
  14. Florida
  15. Illinois
  16. Colorado
  17. Connecticut
  18. San Francisco
  19. DePaul
  20. Southwestern

via TaxProf Blog.

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Ladies & Gentlemen – The Nation’s First Radioactive Deanship

The rumors that have been flying around the internet all day appear to be true: Chemerinsky says UC Irvine rescinds offer to become law school dean. Why would a startup school treat a major Cosntitutional scholar like this? It seems that, notwithstanding his 20 year publication record, they discovered this week that he's a — wait for it — liberal. Apparently a major donor freaked or something.

Not only is this sort of behavior unheard of, unprincipled, but it's also very stupid. Who would take the job now, after this display of political interference and intolerance?

But meanwhile, hey Erwin, we need a Dean here next year!

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